Sunday, September 19, 2004

The Real Story Remains: Where Was George?

It is amazing how the right wing noise machine has managed to cover up the real news about George Bush's National Guard service by putting all the attention on one small aspec. We see Fox News ranting about "memogate" and pretending that this is the real story. At present it is still not known if the Killian memos were real or something created based upon what he said verbally, but there is a lot that we do know.

Regardless of the validity of these particular papers, we do know that the content was an accurate representation of what Killian was saying at the time. This would not excuse the forgery of documents (if this occured), but the questions raised about George Bush remain.

We have two different issues here. One is whether CBS was conned, and it is undeniable that if they were this would be an interesting story. Even so, it would represent one incident, and not a total reflection upon CBS. Even if their story is wrong, this is trivial compared to the falsehoods spread by outlets such as Fox News on a nightly basis. More importantly, if CBS was conned, the result would be to reduce the risk of this happening in the future. Fox News will continue its Pravda imitation and continue to present their propaganda for the Bush Administration disguised as news.

The more important story remains that of George Bush's character. The story was present before the Killian memos and does not depend upon them. Other journalists have come to similar conclusions using entirely different sources. Bush has still not produced any evidence to the contrary.

For those interested in this story, a collection of articles is present at the Kerry 2004 Reference Library at:

http://kerrylibrary.forumflash.com/index.php?showtopic=24

11 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what if George W. Bush's father was able to get him special treatment in the Guard? That is merely a given..it happens. Fact is George W. Bush did six years of National Guard service in five years. His credits attest to this. John Kerry flat-out lied about his "Christmas in Cambodia" experience, among other things.
Are NBC and ABC part of the "Right Wing Noise Machine"? When did that happen? They have been doing plenty of reporting about the fake documents.

Face it folks, John Kerry can tell us all about what is bad with George Bush..(I am listinging to one of his speeches live right now)...But he still has no plan whatsoever himself..so what do we do? Vote Bush out of office and leave the Presidency in a vacuum? Get Real!

8:09 AM  
Blogger Ron Chusid said...

The first thing you do when digging yourself into a hole is to stop digging. That in itself is reason to replace George Bush.

There is no vaccum. Kerry has laid out a set of plans on both domestic and foreign policy which are far superior to what George Bush as done.

9:31 AM  
Blogger Dan Lipka said...

I am so depressed by John Kerry's strategic plan during his run at the Presidency. He doesn't even seem like he really wants to win, or that it really makes a difference. He is running against a man who failed at almost every aspect of being President and yet Kerry won't stand up to him. I am so disappointed by Kerry and the Democratic Party that continues to allow this happen. But it's not too late, he still has time. Please Mr. Kerry, act Presidential and lead this country into the future. Here are some details and suggestions on what you can do to make a difference. http://danlipka.blogspot.com/

1:42 PM  
Blogger Ron Chusid said...

Dan,

Often Kerry has stood up to Bush, but his statements have not received much coverage by the medial ((I would agree that he waited too long to respond to the Swift Boat Vets for Character Assasination).

Based upon his previous campaigns I think Kerry is purposely holding back some of his criticism of Bush (as well as his advertising). Hopefully we have heard all the Bush arguments by now. I wouldn't be surprised to see Kerry make headlines during the debates due to new, stronger attacks on Bush when they are the most meaningful.

Don't assume that what you have seen is all we will get before the election. Whether this strategy pays off or costs the election is too early to say.

2:19 PM  
Blogger Ron Chusid said...

Dan,

Your list of five things which Kerry should say every five minutes reminds me of recommendations I have made half jokingly along similar lines, except I limited it to one thing. No matter what the question, Kerry most also add that he will keep American safe against terrorists. We already know he has a better plan than Goerge Bush. He now has to connect with the voters on this.

2:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look, I don't know how old you are, but I am a 51 year old woman and worked for George McGovern back in the day-I actually called the NDC and I got the job at the convention- here in Miami- at the Doral Hotel to check I.D.s on his staff floor I met everybody..I am still a registered Democrat. The bottom line is what did Kerry did for TWENTY YEARS in the Senate....I have not been convinced this man has one shred of innovative thought or legislation. Show me the record ...action speak louder than words...convince me.

5:14 PM  
Blogger Ron Chusid said...

I'm old enough to have been around for the McGovern campaign, but that is hardly relevant. When attempting to decide upon a candidate, I extensively reviewed Kerry's record and public statements, and came to quite a different impression of the man.

Several articles on John Kerry's Senate career are available in the Kerry 2004 Reference Library at:
http://kerrylibrary.forumflash.com/index.php?showtopic=11

Even if you are not completely sold on Kerry, what are your options? Certainly a supporter of George McGovern wouldn't consider George Bush, and a vote for Nader is a vote for four more years of Bush.

10:35 PM  
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4:20 PM  
Blogger Pamela Leavey said...

John Kerry received his honorable discharge on February 17, 1972 - http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Record_of_Discharge.pdf

He was discharged from the Naval Reserves in 1978 - http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Acceptance_of_Discharge_Naval_Reserve.pdf

The records are not posted in chronological order but they are all available - http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/military_records.html

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Partial list of Legislation written by Kerry that has passed:
Kerry Announces Passage of SBA Reauthorization Bill

Legislation includes several Kerry proposals to help small businesses

The legislation incorporates several small business assistance bills and initiatives introduced by Kerry previously this year, including:

· the Child Care Lending Pilot Act of 2003 (S. 822), creating a pilot program extending the SBA’s 504 plant and equipment loan program to include non-profit child care providers;

· the Small Business Federal Contractor Safeguard Act (S. 633), implementing a two-tiered approach to close the loopholes that have allowed agencies to bundle contracts, and limit federal contracting opportunities for small businesses;

· the Microloan Program Improvement Act of 2001 (S. 174), designed to make the SBA Microloan Program more flexible to meet credit needs, more accessible to micro-entrepreneurs across the nation, and more streamlined for lenders to make loans and provide management assistance;

· the Native American Small Business Development Act (S. 1126), making statutory the Office of Native American Affairs at SBA, expanding on the previously established Tribal Business Information Center (TBIC) program at SBA and establishing two pilot grant programs to assist Native American communities; and

· the Small Business Drought Relief Act of 2003 (S. 318), directing the SBA to extend disaster loans to non-farm related small businesses affected by drought in declared drought disaster areas.

In addition, the legislation secures the Women’s Business Centers by making permanent the Women’s Business Centers Sustainability Pilot established by Kerry in 1999.

http://sbc.senate.gov/democrat/108press/finalreauthpassage0903.html

10:32 AM  
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